Thursday, January 28, 2010

Making the Best of an Ugly Wife

by Jim Elliff

James Fraser of the Scottish Highlands (1700-1769) was known for his ugly wife. I don't know what she looked like physically, but as far as demeanor, she was as ugly a woman as could possibly be found. I hope her behavior changed after their marriage began. Regardless, he was stuck with her for life.

Fraser was a beloved pastor, an author of a couple of useful books, and a battered husband. It is unclear how the Presbyterians of that day could allow a man with a disobedient wife to pastor. Nonetheless, his labors in Alness were appreciated by all but her.

It is said that she never provided him a sit-down meal at their home. Everyone in his parish knew this. He would have starved to death if the church members had not left him pouches of food by the fence post when he passed by on his pastoral errands.

When he returned home at night, he was not able to be in the same room with his wife because he would get a tongue-lashing, so he went to his study. But his wife controlled the coal bin and the oil for the lamp, allowing him no fire to warm himself or oil to light his lamp. If he sat still in the dark, he would nearly freeze. Because of this, he walked back and forth from one end of his study to the other, in the dark, with his hands in front of him. After he died they examined his study and found indentations in the plaster where his hands hit the wall on his nightly beat.

Once, when the local Presbyterian pastors were gathered, a toast was offered for the wives of the pastors. The man offering the toast turned to Fraser and said, probably with a knowing smile, "You'll want to offer a toast to your wife as well, James?"

"So I will and so I should," said Fraser. "For my wife has been better to me than all of yours put together!"

"How so?" they asked, with their mouths agape.

"My wife has driven me to my knees seven times a day, and that is more than any of your wives have done for you!"

Ugly Turns Beautiful

Here is a man who made the best of an ugly wife. And we can learn from him, without having to be married to a spouse like her. There is benefit in every difficulty you've been given in life.

First, we can learn to bear up when the difficulties are bearing down.

Fraser's constant dependence on God was legendary. He preached Christ by his tolerance in a difficult situation.

Second, we can learn to rejoice when our situation is not joyful.

It is hard to believe that James Fraser could be happy with such a wife. Having written a book on sanctification perhaps helped him. He saw that problems such as he encountered actually have a purifying affect. His ugly wife made him a more beautiful Christian.

Third, we can learn to speak about the kindness of God even when being treated unkindly.

Fraser was not afraid to let his fellow pastors know the truth: God was kind to him. No doubt James often thought through the benefits of God's divine hand on him. It was not mean of God, but kind, to bring him closer to God through prayer because of the ugliness of his wife.

I doubt if your spouse is as ugly as Fraser's, but when problems come from within the family they can be some of the most grievous. Regardless of the source of your problem, do you have a Fraser-like response?

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"Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing." James 1:2-4

Note: I received help for this article from The Days of the Fathers in Ross-shire by James Kennedy, Christian Focus Publications, 1983.

Copyright © 2009 Jim Elliff. Permission granted for reproduction in exact form, including web address. All other uses require written permission.

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Monday, January 25, 2010

Loving Even the Cantankerous

by Jim Elliff

He was one of the most cantankerous men I had ever known. When all the church wished to move forward into a new area of ministry, you could count on him confronting the elders about it in a negative way. In fact, “negative” was his middle name. Our system of decision-making did not allow his views to be buried in a hidden vote, but brought him straight into contact with the leaders with whom he almost always disagreed. Time after time, there he was, the only “aginner.”

What did we do?

The leaders decided not to solve the problem administratively, by a system change. No, we were looking for a heart change. We felt we should confront him directly in the hope that he could become the man God wanted him to be. Much to our surprise, it worked! He received our admonition with amazing calm. He appreciated our concern. And he completely reset his life and renewed his sense of commitment to the church. At the end of it all, our greatest leadership curmudgeon became one of our most reliable allies. Love won out.

Why should we desire love above administrative solutions?

First of all, love is the highest mark of maturity. Therefore, not loving the other members of the church is a sign of our immaturity. There may be problems with the other person that are inexcusable, but no problem makes love impossible. In fact, it might be love that calls for helping the offending person see the right way, if you can do it with grace. Or, in other cases, it might mean overlooking his or her fault.

Second, love is the “perfect bond of unity,” the glue that keeps the church together, according to the apostle Paul (Col. 3:14). Do you want unity in the church? Of course you do. But love is critical to make that happen. A church that does not major on love is headed toward disruption. Nothing bonds like love as it works itself out in forgiveness and acceptance.

Third, love is the way of blessing because it is grounded in humility.

Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others.” (Phil. 2:3-4)

God says that the humble person is the blessed person. “Clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, for ‘God is opposed to the proud, but gives grace to the humble’” (1 Pet. 5:5). A church is always in need of more grace. More grace comes from more humility toward each other. And humility toward others is, in essence, love at work.

Finally, love is the reasonable return for what God has given you. “Forgive each other as God, for Christ’s sake, has forgiven you” (Col. 3:13; Rom. 15:7). Christians should never forget God’s mercy toward them. If you have experienced the love of God, it is natural for you to extend the same toward others.

Getting practical toward the persons hardest to love

As you are seeking to raise the level of love in the church as a whole, some will not cooperate. Here are some practical reminders for loving the cantankerous person, the person who seems to be out of sync with everyone.

1. Invite him to your home. His fear of you may be at the heart of his problem. Deflate that by letting him into your life. When he is there in your home, give him much respect, ask him questions and show genuine loving interest. It will do both of you good. Often people squeal only because nobody pays them any attention.

2. Try to find out what drives him. Most people are resistant to change. This man will likely think of a certain period in his church life as the most exciting. Perhaps in the 50s he was the young married man who had a lot to do with the changes taking place then (there were plenty of them). He fought for them and they appeared to succeed. But now he is marginalized and someone is introducing changes that leave him cold. You could do well to find out more about his way of thinking. And remember that you might be in the same position someday.

3. Within reason, give him some servant responsibility. I don’t think we ought to promote cantankerous people to positions that give them a platform for their negativity. Nor do we reward sin. Yet, all believers should serve. Perhaps this difficult person had notable responsibilities in the past, but now has none. Imagine how he feels. Yet there are important jobs that he can do, and do well. Employ him in a servant’s role (rather than a management role) that makes a difference. Check up on his progress and commend him when appropriate.

4. Confront him if he continues to cause problems in the church. It is sinful to disrupt church unity, so, sadly, you must confront people who are creating unrest. Do it kindly, with as much interest in their side as possible. See if God will turn on the light of understanding for both of you. Pray much for a loving attitude toward him. If he persists in sin, he will need further discussions and even a rebuke or church discipline.[1]

The church’s unity and loving acceptance is not a minor matter, and is worth all your efforts at restoring it. This will always involve reaching out to the resistant persons in the group. Do it with genuine love. The old poem by Edward Markham is still instructional:

He drew a circle that shut me out,
Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout.
But Love and I had the wit to win,
We drew a circle that took him in.

When the cantankerous person will not keep from harming the church, action must be taken that maintains the unity of the Spirit without him. Sad, but true. It is loving toward the disruptive person and toward the church as a whole to deal decisively with this disunity, and it must be done.


[1] See Restoring Those Who Fall, a church discipline policy statement for clear instructions. Order by clicking here.

Monday, January 18, 2010

If God is Good, Why Do So Many Bad Things Happen?

by Jim Elliff

My visit to the small apartment of an oriental couple in the Chicago suburbs was disturbing. Here was a man who had innocently gone to work one day, but was caught in the crossfire of a gunfight. He was paralyzed from the neck down. What do you say to a man like that?

“If God is all-powerful and is also good, why is there pain in the world?” The question is among the most difficult to answer, especially when we see “innocent” people destroyed by pain inflicted by others.

It is true that God is good and that in the world under His control bad things happen—at least bad things happen from the human perspective. When I discipline my child, it might seem like a bad thing from his vantage point, but it is a good thing from mine. When a nation wins a just war, it might seem bad from the enemy's side, but it is good for the world. So at least part of the problem is perspective. Are we saying something is bad from God's perspective or man's?

From the creation of man and his fall into sin (Gen. 3) the Bible places man at blame for sin and evil in the world. So in one sense we always lay the responsibility for evil in the world at man's feet. But God is in control and is all-powerful. In fact, God is able to make things all good—after all, he made heaven a perfect place. So why does evil still remain on the earth? A good and just God is obviously accomplishing some good and just things through it.

The most obvious illustration of this is the death of Christ. Judas, the betrayer of Christ, and other evil men did this as an evil act, yet God planned it for our good from eternity past. Judas and the others are judged for their evil, but God is praised for the good accomplished through it. Judas broke the moral will of God (God's will related to commands), but God accomplished the sovereign will or purpose He intended. In a prayer found in Acts 4:27-29 Jesus' followers say that these evil men "gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done." (see also Acts. 2:22-23) Everyone will admit that this is hard to understand and it therefore remains in some ways a great mystery.

Here are some good reasons for what man thinks is bad:

  1. Pain and death help man comprehend the power and awfulness of sin.

    The entrance of sin brought destruction and decay into the world. It is a good thing to be wary of the effects of evil. Our own sin might be the cause of somebody else's pain in the future. My selfishness might cause divorce, for instance. My sinful words might scar the mind of a child. Some other person's greed might cause you to lose your financial security. By seeing how bad results come from sin, we might learn to avoid it to whatever degree possible.

  2. Pain and death are sometimes used by God to judge sin?

    The Bible is full of stories of God's use of physical pain and death to accomplish judgment. If a terrorist were killed by a bullet or a falling rock, we might say, "God has judged his actions." Don't we think that it is a blessing for society when an evil man is taken out of the way? It is a good thing for God to show us some of His judgment for sin ahead of the final judgment. Justice is always a good thing. When the flood came, the Bible states that God was actually judging the world through it. Because all men are sinners and deserving of judgment, it is entirely rational for God to do that if He wished. No person in hell who died as a result of the flood can shake his fist at God and say, "I don't deserve this!" In saying the above, I do not mean by this that everybody who dies or is in pain is being judged as you will see below.

  3. Pain and death help us know the importance of Christ's death.

    The Bible teaches that Christ bore the sins of people who have rebelled against him. Look at the awfulness of that sin. Look at what it wreaks on humanity. Look how it destroys persons and families. Christ took sin on Himself at the cross in order to deliver people from the consequences of their sin. We should be thankful that God has made a way to escape the consequences of sin through Christ. The more I know about evil, the more I should want to be freed from its power, and the more I should be appreciative of the only way of ultimate escape through Christ's death.

  4. Pain sometimes brings people to Christ.

    When a person realizes that he is weak and needs Christ, he is most willing and ready to come to Him. Sometimes God is good in removing our self-sufficiency through suffering. This friend of mine was shot in the crossfire of criminals, and is now paralyzed. He was brought to Christ through these troubles. He thanks God for this apparent "bad thing" because God was so good to bring Him eternal life through it. He misses a little bit of physical freedom now, but it will not matter much when he is in heaven for millions of years and more.

  5. Pain and conflict with evil does the authentic Christian good.

    Paul said that his battle with "bad things" helped him immensely:

    And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong. (2 Cor. 12:7-10)

    The Bible actually says, "And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose." (Rom. 8:28)

    After Joseph had endured a lot of evil from his own brothers, he told them, "But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good." Gen. 50:20 Even death is a mercy for the believer, since he goes right to heaven.

  6. Finally, bad things happen because God wants to teach Christians something about His special favor toward them.

    In the Bible Paul said this:

    What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory…" (Rom. 9:22-23)

    As the true Christian looks at the rest of the people in the world, he is reminded that God is doing something really special with him. He sees the privileges of relationship with Him, access in prayer, the tender care of a Father, and a thousand other reminders that he is receiving grace that those without Christ don't have. We learn best by comparison. We know soft because we know hard; we know up because we know down. God permits evil people to remain on the earth, doing evil, so that he can show the true Christian by contrast how merciful He is toward them. This knowledge is important to the Christian so that he will praise God correctly and exuberantly.

    We can be thankful that God does not remove all evil right now. If he did, would he not remove you? Suppose he said, "Ok, I will do just as you request. I will take away all evil right this minute!" Do you think that you would be spared?

    At the final judgment he will remove all wickedness from the good. We cannot be spared at that judgment on the basis of personal goodness. We simply are not righteous (Rom. 3:10). As Christ said, "There is none good but One." (Mt. 19:17) But there is a way to be spared—through Christ's perfect righteousness. The Bible says that Christ has taken our sin on Himself so that those who trust Him might be delivered forever from the penalty, power, and presence of sin in heaven.

Thursday, January 14, 2010

Heavenly-minded, Courageous John Bradford

by Steve Burchett

What would inspire a man to fearlessly preach Christ and offer words of hope in the minutes just before he was burned to death on a stake? Consider the life, and death, of John Bradford.

John Bradford lived in Britain in the 16th century. He was born around 1510, converted in 1547, and he became a "roving chaplain" in 1550, rebuking sin and preaching Christ. Eventually, the rule in Britain was handed over to a rogue regime set against the gospel. The ensuing persecution was fierce, and Bradford was imprisoned because of his love for Christ. He was ultimately condemned to die by wicked men. Another believer, 19 year-old John Leaf, was to be killed beside Bradford. Finally, the day of their martyrdom arrived. Faith Cook tells what happened next:

Approaching the stake, both men fell on their faces in one brief moment of silent prayer. "Arise and make an end," said the sheriff impatiently, "for the press of the people is great." And so the martyrs were chained to the stake. Just moments before the fires were lit, John Bradford lifted up his face and hands in one last plea to his countrymen: "O England, England, repent thee of thy sins. Beware of false anti-christs; take heed they do not deceive you." He asked forgiveness of any he might have wronged and freely forgave those who so grievously offended against him. After begging the prayers of the people, he turned to address young John Leaf, his fellow-sufferer. The words are unforgettable: "Be of good comfort brother; for we shall have a merry supper with the Lord this night!"1

What gave John Bradford the courage to live, and die, for His Savior? Was he just a naturally gutsy guy? No, Bradford's courage was inspired by his knowledge of the eternal inheritance to come. Read again these words of Bradford to John Leaf: "Be of good comfort brother; for we shall have a merry supper with the Lord this night!" Because Bradford's mind was enthralled with future blessings in eternity, he was freed from the fear of man and the comforts of this world.

Even while Bradford was sitting in prison, his thoughts were on the joys of heaven. He wrote the following to his loved ones:

Ah! dear hearts, be not faint-hearted. Continue to walk in the fear of the Lord, as you have well begun. At the length we shall meet together in Christ's kingdom, and there never part asunder . . . O joyful place; O place of all places desired!2

John Bradford endured suffering and death for Christ because he knew and believed God's promises. He did what Peter charged his suffering readers to do: "Fix your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ" (1 Peter 1:13). Bradford was like Abraham who "by faith . . . lived as an alien in the land of promise, as in a foreign land . . . for he was looking for the city which has foundations, whose architect and builder is God" (Hebrews 11:9-10, emphasis added).

Bradford understood and believed what those suffering Christians knew in Hebrews 10:34. Faced with the choice to either hide and avoid persecution, or visit fellow believers in prison and lose their goods, the author of Hebrews writes, "For you showed sympathy to the prisoners and accepted joyfully the seizure of your property, knowing that you have for yourselves a better possession and a lasting one" (emphasis mine). Like these believers, Bradford's fixation with heaven was the key to his courageous faith.

What was the impact of Bradford's life and death? Cook writes that he confirmed "by his death the truth of that doctrine he had so diligently and powerfully preached" and "inscribed the Reformation truths more deeply on the conscience of the nation."3 He had previously prayed that God would give him strength to glorify Him by his death. His prayer was answered.

John Bradford teaches us the importance of living in light of the hope that awaits us in Christ in heaven. By filling our minds with the truth about the blessings of eternity (which will take more than just a few minutes a day of meditation on Scripture!), we will be strengthened to live for Christ today. This means we must beware of bondage to anything this world has to offer, like the television, or computers, or supped-up technological gadgets. Those things are not wicked, but habitually overusing them will dull your affections for Christ and make you a selfish person who lives a cozy, Christ-denying, non-influential life.

"So, let us go out to Him outside the camp, bearing His reproach. For here we do not have a lasting city, but we are seeking the city which is to come." (Hebrews 13:13-14)

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1 Faith Cook, Singing in the Fire (Carlisle, PA: Banner of Truth, 2008), 7-8.
2 Ibid., 6.
3 Ibid., 8.

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Monday, January 11, 2010

Questions for a Prospective Pastor

by Jim Elliff & Don Whitney

It is not uncommon for a pastor to be opposed by the very people who at first enthusiastically promoted him. Why? Often it is because only surface communication took place between the potential pastor and the congregation before he assumed his position in the church. In our day it is possible for a pastor to be chosen for a church with almost no serious questions being asked, much less any doctrinal questions. This should never be the case. We suggest that churches seek the most complete dialogue possible about matters of doctrine, practice, and lifestyle. If the church fails to do so, the prospective pastor should call for it. This procedure protects both pastor and church.

Two other matters are of extreme importance. First, the potential pastor should supply a list of references. The church must carefully follow up these references and even ask those individuals to suggest others. Consideration should be given to the fact that sometimes a person is disliked for no fault of his own. (Even Christ was hated.) The breadth of inquiry through references assures you that the pastor has “a good reputation with those both inside and outside the church.” (1 Timothy 3:7) Your questioning of references should focus on the list of qualifications found in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9. These lists of qualifications were written primarily as a means of observing the lives of prospective leaders in the church, not as a list of questions to ask the candidate. Such observation is extremely important. Of course the ideal would be for your church to live with the man and observe his life over months and even years of time. Because this unfortunately is not the pattern of most churches, you will have to depend heavily on the observations of the references supplied. Superficial or overly subjective answers by the candidate himself could distort the true picture. The survey below will refer to the above mentioned passages, but their use will be more general; your use of them with the names references should be extensive. This does not infer that the passages mentioned are not of extreme importance for the candidate to use in questioning himself.

Related to the above is a second consideration: Much effort should be made to expose the prospective pastor to the church for as long a time as possible before a decision is reached. Exposure to a prospect is not a problem when choosing pastors from within the congregation, but it does pose a considerable difficulty for those bringing a new pastor in from outside. A quick weekend of meetings is often not enough for the people to be properly informed. Remember, this man will be there a long time, influencing your family and the community for Christ. We know that you are ready now to have your new pastor. But there is one thing worse than no pastor—the wrong pastor.

This final suggestion: After initial interviews, consider getting taped or written answers to these questions from the one who is the most serious prospect at the time. Ask him if he is interested enough to go to this further stage of inquiry and tell him that it will take a good deal of his valuable time. This in-depth questioning is for those men who show a high level of interest. Clarifying questions can then follow by phone and personal interview. A select group of these questions may be asked later in the larger church meetings to allow the pastor to speak about his beliefs and to receive further questions.

The following questions* are not necessarily listed in order of their significance. Some of them may not be important to you. You may want to add others. There is no such thing as the perfect pastor; but attention to these matters along with lengthy times of prayer and even fasting should assure you of finding God’s man for your church.

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  1. There are many who profess to know Christ who are mistaken. What evidences do you have that you have been given life by God?

  2. What does it mean for a person to love God? In what ways do you see true biblical love toward God demonstrated in your life? Do you see true biblical love toward God in the lives of your wife and each of your children?

  3. How does your wife feel about your commitment to pastoring?

  4. Why do you believe God wants you in the pastorate?

  5. Closely examine each of the Bible’s qualifications for pastors and deacons (1 Tim. 3; Titus 1:5-9; Acts 6:1-6; 1 Pet. 5:1-4). Which are you strongest qualities? With which requirements do you have the most trouble? Why do you believe these areas of difficulty do not presently disqualify you from ministering? (Note the phrase “must be” in 1 Tim. 3:2.)

  6. A pastor is charged by God to preach to the church and to shepherd the people in a more individual way. Which aspect of the ministry appeals to you the most? What are some specific ways you could be helped to develop your skills in either of these areas?

  7. What are your methods for involving yourself in the lives of your people as their shepherd and overseer of their souls?

  8. What activities characterize your evangelistic interest? What is your approach to personal evangelism? corporate evangelism?

  9. What is your approach to counseling? How do you handle your counseling load?

  10. What are your specific and regular practices regarding the spiritual disciplines (e.g., personal prayer, Bible study, meditation, stewardship, learning, etc.)?

  11. How would you describe a successful pastor? How would you describe a successful church?

  12. How is the pastor held accountable? What relationships in your life currently provide accountability for responsible attitudes and behavior, both personally and as pastor?

  13. Who are your favorite Christian writers, commentators, theologians, etc.? Why? What books have you read in the past year?

  14. Describe an instance when you made attempts to reform the church in some significant area. What were the results? What did it cost you personally?

  15. Describe your leadership style. What have been some weaknesses? Strengths?

  16. When you have met with opposition, has it been mostly related to your style of leadership, your personality, your beliefs, or something else?

  17. According to your observations, what doctrines needs special emphasis in our day?

  18. What is true biblical repentance?

  19. What is true biblical faith?

  20. Explain justification by faith. What is the difference between the Catholic view of justification and the biblical view?

  21. Please explain your view of sanctification. What are the various means God uses to sanctify the believer?

  22. Can a person have Christ as his Savior without submitting to Him as Lord? Explain.

  23. What is your position on the inerrancy of Scripture?

  24. Explain the biblical term “baptism of the Spirit.” When does this baptism occur?

  25. What are your views on baptism by water?

  26. How does the Bible relate the sovereignty of God to salvation?

  27. What does the Bible teach about the extent of man’s depravity?

  28. What does Christ’s atonement accomplish?

  29. What does the Bible teach about the perseverance and preservation of believers?

  30. What is the proper use of the Old Testament law?

  31. How do you articulate your present view of end-time or eschatological issues?

  32. Do you believe that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin? What is the significance of your belief?

  33. What is your interpretation of the biblical teaching on Hell?

  34. Do you believe that the events described in Genesis 1-11 are factual or symbolic?

  35. What does the Bible teach concerning spiritual gifts? Please delineate your views about prophecy and speaking in tongues.

  36. What is your view of divorce and remarriage? How strictly will you follow this view in practice?

  37. What is your view of the phrase, “The bishop [pastor] then must be...the husband of one wife”
    (1 Tim. 3:2)?

  38. What are your requirements for performing a marriage ceremony?

  39. Please explain your views on church discipline. Relate any personal experience.

  40. How would you handle a case of scandal or immorality by a church member?

  41. What is your view on abortion?

  42. Many children who appear to be converted at an early age show no evidence of knowing Christ later. How do you handle children when they come to you for counsel concerning conversion? What is your advice to parents?

  43. What is a useful plan for receiving new members into the church? What are prerequisites?

  44. What are your views on styles of church music?

  45. Who should direct the worship of the church? Why? Which methods of leading corporate worship are appropriate? Which are inappropriate?

  46. What does the Bible teach is the purpose of the church’s weekly gathering?

  47. What are your views regarding raising money for various projects within the church? Should the church solicit those outside the church?

  48. What are your convictions about the local church and debt?

  49. What does the bible teach about women in pastoral ministry?

  50. What does the Bible teach about how churches should make decisions?

  51. How should a pastor and his church relate to other churches locally and (if denominational) to the larger body? Do you feel comfortable cooperating with other denominations? Do you draw any lines?

  52. What are the biblical responsibilities of elders? Are there any distinctions between elders, pastors, and overseers? If applicable, what distinctions exist between staff and non-staff pastors?

  53. What are the biblical responsibilities of deacons? How are deacons and elders to relate?

  54. What emphasis do you give to the leadership of fathers with their families, especially in terms of family worship? Do you personally engage in family worship with your wife and children?

  55. What is your missionary vision for the church? How are you currently demonstrating missionary interest and involvement?

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A man does not have to have full and immediate answers to every question to be a good and faithful minister. With some of these questions it may be acceptable for him to say, “I don’t know,” or, “I don’t have my position completely developed on that yet.”

However, beware of a pastor who seems to avoid giving clear answers. Certainly with some questions he may find it necessary to define terms and qualify his response. Proceed carefully if he avoids making his position as plain as possible.

Other questions, if applicable, might deal with such issues as the church growth movement, home schooling, the Masons, the New Age movement, racial views, political activity of the church, relationships with other ministries or movements, etc. Questions regarding other important doctrinal issues should be asked as needed (e.g., regarding the deity of Christ, the acceptance of the Trinity, etc.) Both a search committee and the church should satisfy themselves concerning any issues they wish to discuss.

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*Some or all of these questions may also be appropriate for ordination councils, securing church staff, qualifying missionaries, Christian school faculty interviews, and evaluating suitability of candidates for Christian ministries.

Copyright © 1996 Jim Elliff and Donald S. Whitney

Thursday, January 7, 2010

Surviving Failure: The Story of Renée of France

by Susan Verstraete

The news traveled quickly through Europe. RenĂ©e, the great patron of the Reformation in Italy, had failed. She had been betrayed by her husband, browbeaten by a priest of the Inquisition, stripped of her wealth and her jewels, and isolated from her books, her family and her sympathetic court. Finally, she was humiliated by a public trial—she, the daughter of a King!—and sentenced to isolation until she recanted. All these things she could endure, but when they took her two young daughters to a convent to be raised by nuns, it was the last straw. She held out for a week, but finally RenĂ©e outwardly renounced the doctrine she inwardly believed, attended Mass and tearfully accepted Communion from a priest. Her enemies were jubilant. Her friends in the exiled church were brokenhearted.

So now what? How could Renée go on after this public failure?

Renée was born in 1510. She was called "the King's very dear and much loved daughter," but even her father, King Louis XII of France, could foresee future difficulty in finding a suitable husband for his hunchbacked, homely daughter. And sure enough, Renée ended up in a completely unsuitable arranged marriage to the playboy, Ercole II d'Este, the Duke of Ferrara, Italy, whose father was in debt to her family. Renee moved to Ferrara to begin her married life when she was seventeen years old.

Ercole was staunchly Catholic, but Renée was sympathetic to Luther and the "new thinking" of the Reformation. At first, her religious preference was merely a loyalty, like her patriotism to France. She felt no compunction about occasionally attending Mass with her husband and taking Communion in the Catholic Church. That would soon change.

It was a crime punishable by death to teach Reformed theology in Italy. Luther's books were outlawed, as were any Bibles translated into the common language. But while Renee's uncle was on the throne in France (her father died when she was five), no one dared object to RenĂ©e associating with whomever she chose—at least, they did not dare to object officially. She surrounded herself with Reformed scholars and poets. Her court was a haven for those fleeing religious persecution in France and Italy. One of the many fugitives who found refuge in Ferrara was the French reformer, John Calvin, introduced at court as "Charles d'Espeville" in 1535.

During his stay with RenĂ©e, Calvin carefully explained the doctrine of salvation by faith alone and how the Mass pictured resacrificing Christ—as if His once-for-all atonement was insufficient. RenĂ©e understood, and her heart was opened to the Gospel. Her religion, once a mere preference, now became a passionate reliance on the sufficiency of the atonement of Jesus Christ. RenĂ©e stopped attending Mass.

After her conversion, Renée continued her efforts on behalf of the Reformation with renewed vigor. She wrote letters to her husband and other government officials asking for mercy for those imprisoned for the sake of Christ and she continued to provide aid from her own fortune. During this period, she visited Faventino Fannio in prison.

Fannio came to believe the doctrines of the Reformation by reading the Bible translated into Italian—a forbidden book. He was so excited about what he had learned he could not contain his joy. He traveled about teaching one here and one there, urging them to study the Bible for themselves, until he came to the attention of the Inquisitor. Fannio was thrown in jail and threatened with death unless he recanted. He was unmoved. But when his wife and children came to beg him not to become a martyr, Fannio agreed to deny his faith to obtain his freedom. He was immediately tortured in conscience and "a horror of great darkness" fell on his soul. Fannio threw himself at the foot of the cross, and thus strengthened and forgiven, decided to prove his repentance by redoubled efforts to teach the Gospel. He was immediately arrested again and imprisoned in Ferrara for two years, where his plight came to RenĂ©e's attention. Despite her efforts on his behalf, he died a martyr in 1550.

We don't know for sure, but I'd like to think that RenĂ©e remembered the grace Fannio found at the cross after she recanted. What we do know is that RenĂ©e went right back to doing what she did before—providing aid to the persecuted in any way she could. She proved her repentance by her actions.

Renée's story over the next few years is filled with difficult choices between the safety of those she loved and living an uncompromising faith. Most times, she succeeded. Sometimes she failed. Renée would return to the cross over and over again to find strength, wisdom, courage and forgiveness.

After Ercole's death, Renée's son told her that she must recant again or leave Italy. She left, and established a new place of refuge in her castle in Montargis, France. The castle was affectionately known as "The Lord's Hotel." Renée did not turn anyone away who came seeking refuge, and at times the castle was so crowded it was difficult to move freely. Year after year she gave hospitality to those in danger, not considering her own safety or comfort. She died in 1574, but because of her faith in Christ, was denied burial with the rest of the royal family in Basilica of St. Denis. Her simple monument in Montargis reads, "May many daughters of France yet rise to emulate the example of her faith, patience, and charity."

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Monday, January 4, 2010

The Conviction of Fleshly Man: Why Romans 7:14-25 Cannot Describe the Christian Life

by Daryl Wingerd
Introduction

You may or may not be aware that Romans 7:14-25 is a controversial passage of Scripture. The controversy centers around Paul’s use of the pronouns “I” and “Me,” as well as his use of the present tense in describing a serious, and seemingly futile, struggle with sin. Many interpreters insist that the use of the first person present tense proves that Paul was describing his own present experience as a Christian, which naturally leads to the conclusion that the passage describes the post-conversion experience of trying, yet habitually failing, to obey God.

Other interpreters, myself included, believe Paul was describing the pre-conversion discovery (based at least in part on his own experience) intended to teach that the Law of Moses was not able to deliver a person from sin. According to this view, the use of the present tense is a literary device, possibly designed to personalize Paul’s struggle or perhaps to prompt the reader to reflect on his or her own experience. Historically, among solid Bible scholars and theologians, the division of opinion concerning this passage is somewhat equally divided.

Almost all solid interpreters agree that Paul’s overall purpose in writing Romans 7 was to insist that the Law was “holy and righteous and good” (7:12), while at the same time explaining and defending his prior teaching that the Law served a negative role in God’s redemptive purpose. One can easily imagine an objector asking Paul, “If the Law of Moses is good, as you say it is, how is it that you can also say that ‘the Law came in so that the transgression would increase’ (5:20)? If the Law if holy and righteous, how can you say that Christians ‘are not under law but under grace’ (6:14), that the Law arouses sinful passions in those who are still “in the flesh” (7:5), and that Christians have been “released from the Law . . . so that [they] serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter’ (7:6)? These appear to be blunt degradations of the Law.”

Paul answers this protest, first by concisely stating that the Law is good (7:13), and then by demonstrating, through the use of a unique illustration (7:14-25), that the villain in this drama was not the Law of Moses, but sin which has taken control of the flesh. The Law, which is inherently good, was used by sin to bring about rebellion to God instead of righteousness. Paul goes on to explain that this twisted use of the Law exposes the extreme sinfulness of sin. Sin actually used something good and righteous and holy to bring about something bad—increased sin, and even death (7:5, 7-8, 13). The overall message of chapter 7, then, is that the Law itself, while inherently good, is not an instrument of transformation. It is unable to do what Christ and the Spirit of God have done, not because it is intrinsically flawed, but rather because it was “weak . . . through the flesh” (8:3).

Some have suggested that one could preach through Romans 7:14-25 and fully explore Paul’s intended meaning without ever dealing with the controversy. Perhaps this is true if one lives in a grammatical and textual vacuum where nothing needs to be known other than what the text states explicitly. But in real life, where Christians tend to evaluate their own experiences in relation to the biblical text being taught, questions inevitably arise: “How does Romans 7:14-25 apply to me?” “Is this passage describing the way the Christian life is supposed to look, or should I understand this to be a description of someone who has not yet received the gift of the Holy Spirit?” The pastor who attempts to preach through Romans 7 without addressing these questions will likely end up answering them anyway, over Sunday lunch or over the phone later that week. In my view it is better to address them publicly.

Avoiding Unbiblical Extremes

Romans 7:14-25 can be misapplied in dangerous ways. Where the passage is understood as a description of the ordinary Christian life, professing believers who are overtaken in patterns of habitual immorality (or other serious sins), might take unwarranted comfort by thinking, “Even Paul failed habitually, like me, and we know Paul was a true Christian. Therefore my own experience, though characterized by habitual sin, is that of a true Christian.” I have personally heard the “Romans 7” excuse coming from the lips of professing Christians who were (or should have been) facing church discipline, and there is no shortage of written works available today that naturally lead to this type of abuse. On the other hand, where the passage is seen as a description of Paul’s pre-conversion discovery that the Law could not produce righteousness in those who are still “in the flesh,” some may wrongly arrive at the conclusion that true Christians never have serious struggles with sin.

Both of these applications of Romans 7:14-25 are serious abuses of the passage and cannot be harmonized with the rest of the New Testament. Professing Christians who are overcome by patterns of serious sin should never be comforted in their profession of saving faith based on the belief that Romans 7:14-25 describes the ordinary Christian experience. Instead they should be warned that their profession of faith may be false, based on the clear meaning of passages like 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 and 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, James 2:14-26, and 1 John 3:7-10. On the opposite end of the spectrum, those who conclude that true Christians never struggle with sin or fail in sinful ways are also committing a serious error. Interpreters in this category should note that Paul devotes much of the space in his letters to encouraging Christians to guard themselves against the temptation to sin (e.g., Rom. 13:14; Eph. 6:10-18), to put away sinful behavior (e.g., Rom. 12:9-21; 1 Cor. 6:18; Eph. 4:17-24), and to forgive and restore one another when sins are committed (e.g., Gal. 6:1; Col. 3:12-13). Even Jesus said, “If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him” (Luke 17:4, emphasis added).

As I have stated, I am of the opinion that the experience described in Romans 7:14-25 is the pre-conversion discovery that because of sin which dwells in the members of this person’s body, he finds himself unable to do that which is good. The passage reveals the inner struggle and enlightenment of the person who has been diligently seeking God’s approval in the wrong way, by trying to keep the Law, and who finally reaches the point of despair due to habitual failure. Before listing my reasons for concluding that Paul was not describing his own experience as a Christian (or the hypothetical “ordinary Christian experience”), I want to list briefly the typical arguments for this view:

Eight Arguments for the “Ordinary Christian Experience” View

  1. In verses 7-13, Paul was speaking in the past tense, obviously describing his own past experience of being confronted by the demands of the Law. The sudden shift from past to present tense in verse 14 is most naturally taken as an indication that Paul is now describing his present experience as a Christian.
  1. The struggle between the mind, or inner man, and the flesh, or members of the body (vv. 22-23), is not present in unbelievers. They want to do evil, not good (Rom. 1:18-32; John 3:19-20). Only believers have the genuine desire to do good, and therefore only they experience this struggle. Even though the Spirit is not mentioned in this passage, the fact that this person is experiencing a struggle between good and evil proves that the Holy Spirit is in him.
  1. The apparent defeat and slavery to sin depicted in Romans 7:14-25 is consistent with the “already-but-not-yet” theme in Paul’s theology. Objectively, Christians are not enslaved to sin, as Paul repeatedly affirms in Romans 6 (vv. 6, 7, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22), but they are nevertheless told not to allow sin to reign as their master (Rom. 6:12). In one place Paul can say that the old self has been laid aside with its evil practices and the new self has been put on (Col. 3:9-10), while in another place he can exhort Christians to “lay aside the old self” and “put on the new self” (Eph. 4:22-24). In Romans 7:14-25, Paul was describing the “not yet” aspect of his theology, where Christians are described subjectively and appear to be enslaved to sin even though they are not. In Romans 6 and 8, he was describing the “already” aspect of his theology by describing Christians objectively as having been freed from sin.
  1. Unbelievers do not “joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man” (v. 22). They are “haters of God” (Rom. 1:30), “hostile toward God” (8:7; Col. 1:21), and do not submit themselves to His Law (Rom. 8:7-8).
  1. The struggle depicted in Romans 7:14-25 is consistent with the war between the flesh and the Spirit described in Galatians 5:16-18. Because the struggle in Galatians involves the Spirit of God, it clearly refers to a struggle within the Christian. Therefore, because both places describe the potential for sinful failure, both must refer to the same struggle within the Christian.
  1. The person in verses 14-25 knows Jesus as his Savior (v. 25a).
  1. After proclaiming that Christ is the one who will deliver him from “the body of this death” (v. 24), Paul returns to further describe the ongoing conflict. This proves that even after Christ has delivered a person from sin and death (7:25a), the pattern of sinful failure described in verses 14-23 continues (7:25b). On this same thought, the forward-looking question, “Who will set me free from the body of this death” (7:24, emphasis added) should be understood as referring to the final redemption of the body, which is yet in the future for believers. Christians remain in “the body of this death” until Christ’s return. This is affirmed by Romans 8:11 and 23.
  1. The Romans 7:14-25 experience is universally familiar to believers, so much so that it is proven to be “ordinary” by that factor. All Christians struggle with sin, and all are anticipating final deliverance from “the body of this death.” This is so consistently affirmed elsewhere in the New Testament (even as close as Romans 8:11 and 23) that no one should find it unusual for Paul to describe himself that way here.
As you can see, these arguments cannot be dismissed lightly, and I will address each one individually later. Furthermore, while some may abuse this view by using the passage to comfort “so-called” Christians who are acting like unbelievers, the “ordinary Christian experience” interpretation of the passage has been taught and applied in a responsible manner by some of the most excellent teachers of our time, as well as by many noteworthy Christians throughout history. Godly people can disagree, and I have little doubt that many will continue to find the above eight arguments more compelling than the twelve opposing arguments I will present below. I only hope that the reader will carefully consider my arguments and formulate an opinion that is consistent with the rest of the New Testament—most importantly, with Romans 6 and 8.

Twelve Reasons Why Romans 7:14-25 Should Not Be Seen as a Description of the Ordinary Christian Experience

1. The text of Romans 7:1 through 8:17 reveals the contrast between two distinct realms of experience, and the “ordinary Christian experience” view of 7:14-25 blurs or nullifies this contrast. After Paul’s illustration about death dissolving the marriage bond (7:1-3), he declares the believer’s freedom from the Law in verse 4. Verses 5 and 6 then reveal a “we once were/but now are” contrast. I have found it helpful to think of these two verses as two snapshots—previews of two full-length features that are to follow. The preview in verse 5 is of the full-length feature in verses 7-25, and the preview in verse 6 is of the full-length feature in 8:1-17. The point of this contrast is to show that living under the law, with indwelling sin being the main operative influence, is a life of defeat characterized by habitual sin, while living under grace, with the indwelling Spirit of God being the main operative influence, is a life of behavioral newness characterized by righteousness. First, Romans 7:5 previews the “we once were” part:
While we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death.
Clearly this verse describes a pre-Christian experience. Paul could not say, “While we were in the flesh” if those to whom he was writing (i.e., believers) were still “in the flesh.” The description that flows in the rest of verse 5 about those in this condition bears striking similarities to the person whose experience is described in verses 14-25 (from this point on I will refer to him as “Fleshly Man”). In verse 5, the Law produced rebellion in non-Christians because of “the sinful passions” which “were at work in the members of our body” (v. 5). In verses 14-25, the presence of these “sinful passions” (i.e., the law of sin which dwells in the members of Fleshly Man’s body) is the very discovery Fleshly Man describes, though in much greater detail.

The point is, verse 5 clearly describes an experience that is in the past for the Christian, and verses 14-25 indicate that the same past experience is in view, even though it is described by Fleshly Man using the present tense.

Verse 6 then previews the “but now” part of the contrast, clearly indicating a shift from past experience to present reality.

But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Describing Christians’ present condition, Paul assures them that they have been released from the Law. They are no longer bound to it. When we understand that the way in which Christians were formerly bound to the Law in this passage was through slavery to sin (as in 7:5), we can see that freedom from the Law corresponds with freedom from slavery to sin. This was the message of Romans 6:14 where Paul says, “For sin shall not be master over you.” Why shall sin not be master over us Paul? “For [i.e., because] you are not under law but under grace.” Sin is no longer the Christian’s master because living according to the letter of the Law of Moses is no longer the Christian’s way of life.

The “but now” way of thinking previewed in 7:6 is then expounded upon in chapter 8: “Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (8:1, emphasis added). From 8:1 through 8:17, everything is about life in the Spirit, as opposed to life “in the flesh.” In this passage Paul speaks repeatedly about actual, behavioral transformation through the influence of the Holy Spirit, rather than describing consistent defeat and failure because of the influence of the sinful flesh (as in Romans 7:14-25). Romans 8:1-17, then, is the full-length feature that was briefly previewed in Romans 7:6.

To summarize, Romans 7:5 describes the Christian’s past experience—slavery to sin through rebellion to the Law—and the rest of Romans 7 expounds upon the experience of living under the realm of the Law. Romans 7:6 then describes the Christian’s present reality—life under grace through the Spirit—and Romans 8:1-17 expounds upon the experience of living under the realm of grace, where righteous living is the norm. This seemingly obvious contrast is tremendously problematic for the “ordinary Christian experience” view of Romans 7:14-25 for the following reason: If Fleshly Man’s experience is a description of the ordinary Christian life, then the experience of living under the realm of grace is identical to the experience of living under the realm of the Law. In other words, there is no contrast. But if there is no contrast between the two realms, then there is no purpose for Paul to go to such great lengths to describe one.

2. Romans 7:14 is logically and grammatically connected with verse 13, which obviously describes the experience of an unregenerate person. Paul tells us in verse13 that sin used the Law to bring about his death (further explaining verse 9, in which he described the recognition of his sinful nature when confronted with the Law). The word “For” at the beginning of verse 14 informs the reader that Paul is explaining further how sin was able to use the Law, which was good, to bring about death. Given this connection between verses 13 and 14, along with the fact that verse 13 so clearly speaks of a pre-conversion experience, it would be incredibly awkward for Paul to suddenly switch to the description of a regenerate person and the ordinary Christian life. The switch to the first-person present-tense, then, must be explained as a literary device, perhaps designed to help the reader “personalize” the experience, rather than a chronological shift to Paul’s present experience.

3. Fleshly Man sees himself as still obligated to keep the Law of Moses, whereas Paul has already stated that Christians have been “released from the Law” (v. 6). In verse 15, Fleshly Man becomes aware of a mysterious tension within him. He wants to do something, but he finds himself doing the opposite, the very thing he hates. Verse 16 then explains what it is that Fleshly Man wants to do—he wants to keep the Law. This becomes obvious when we learn that his desire to keep the Law, along with his hatred of doing the opposite, amounts to a confession that the Law is good. Verse 16 serves the purpose of further vindicating Paul’s answer in verse 13 that the Law was good, and was not the cause of his death. This thought follows through the rest of the passage. The good that Fleshly Man wants to do (vv, 18, 19, and 21) is to keep the Law. Even later in the passage (v. 25), when he summarizes the dichotomy within him, it is expressed in terms of serving “the law of God,” and “[serving] the law of sin.”

Compare this with the fact that in chapter 6, Paul told Christians that they are “not under law but under grace” (6:14). In chapter 7 he informs Christians that they have been “made to die to the Law through the body of Christ” (7:4). Two verses later (7:6), in describing Christian experience under the realm of grace (rather than that of the Law), he writes, “But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter” (emphasis added). If Romans 7:25 is the description of tension in the ordinary Christian life—serving the law of God with one part of our being yet serving the law of sin with the other—it would seem impossible to harmonize this verse with Romans 7:6, where Christians are told that they do not serve “in oldness of the letter.”

The point is, if Paul were describing his own experience as a Christian in 7:14-25, then he was pursuing the very life of law-keeping he had just told Christians was in their past.

4. Fleshly Man describes himself as the opposite of “spiritual” (v. 14), whereas Paul typically describes Christians as being “spiritual” people. Paul writes in verse 14, “For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh.” When Fleshly Man says, “the Law is spiritual,” he is continuing Paul’s previous commendation of the Law (vv. 12-13). He is saying, once again, that it is “holy and righteous and good” because it emanates from the Spirit of God. But then he inserts a contrast, saying that he is “of flesh.” While the Law is “spiritual,” Fleshly Man is “of flesh.”

Compare this with the way Paul contrasts unbelievers and believers in 1 Corinthians 2 and 3. He first calls the unbeliever “natural” and the believer “spiritual” (2:14-15). Then, in 1 Corinthians 3:1, he rebukes the Corinthians, saying, “And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to men of flesh, as to infants in Christ” (3:1, emphasis added). By saying that they are not acting like “spiritual” people but rather like those who are “of flesh,” Paul is clearly saying that they are not acting like Christians. The way he is compelled to address them is the way he would address unbelievers. This is confirmed in verse 3 where Paul asks rhetorically, “are you not walking [i.e., acting] like mere men?” The most one should take from the added phrase in verse 3:1, “as to infants in Christ,” is that the Corinthians’ behavior was nearly indistinguishable from unbelievers. They, being supposedly mature Christians, were acting the way a newly converted person might be tempted to act until learning better behavior from mature believers and from increasing knowledge of Scripture.[1]

According to Galatians 6:1, the professing Christian who is not “spiritual” is the one who has been overtaken in a trespass. He or she is in need of being restored by people who are “spiritual.” The “spiritual” ones, then, are the ones who are living the ordinary Christian life. The one who has been overtaken in a trespass (i.e., the one who is not spiritual), is in an intolerable and unusual condition for a Christian. If the person in Galatians 6:1 is not restored through repentance to the status of a “spiritual” person, he would be subject to church discipline. This leads to the conclusion that Fleshly Man should not be thought of as a Christian, at least not one who is experiencing the Christian life in the ordinary way.

Most importantly, being “spiritual” is the way Paul describes all Christians in Romans 8. They are defined in verse 5 as those who are “according to the Spirit” (vv. 9-11), that is, those who have the Spirit of God dwelling in them. In verses 13-14 they are described as those who are walking by the Spirit. In verses 13-14, in fact, the quality of “being led by the Spirit” (as opposed to living according to the flesh) is a determining factor in knowing who is a Christian. It simply cannot follow, then, that Fleshly Man, who describes himself as being “of flesh” and was clearly living according to the flesh, is Paul the Christian.

5. Fleshly Man describes himself as being “sold into bondage to sin” (Lit., “sold under sin,” v. 14). This clearly implies a condition of slavery to sin, which Paul says in Romans 6 no longer describes Christians. The word “sold” calls to mind the very slavery Paul insisted that Christians have been delivered from in Romans 6. Earlier in the letter, Paul concluded his indictment of the whole world by saying “that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin” (3:9). He then proceeded to list evidence from the Old Testament that every person, whether Jew or Gentile, needs to be saved (3:10-18). Elsewhere Paul wrote, “But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe” (Gal. 3:22). In this sentence, the phrase “shut up . . . under sin” includes every member of unredeemed humanity, while those who believe are the recipients of the promise of salvation (which involves deliverance from sin). It is inconsistent with Paul’s writing, both in Romans and Galatians, to allow that a Christian could be accurately described as being “sold [under] sin.”

It is critical to note that Fleshly Man is describing his own objective status when he says he is “sold [under] sin.” He is not commenting on the way he feels about himself based on his behavior. He describes himself as actually being a slave of sin. Compare this with Paul’s description of the actual spiritual condition of Christians in Romans 6 (all italics added):

Our old self was crucified with Him [Christ], in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin. (v. 6)

For he who has died is freed from sin. (v. 7)

For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace. (v. 14)

But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, and having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. (vv. 17-18)

For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. (v. 20)

But now, having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. (v. 22).

Paul went to great lengths in chapter 6 to convince Christians that their objective status was no longer one of slavery to sin. He even described them as being “obedient from the heart,” and their new objective status as “slaves of righteousness” (6:17-18). Not only is it impossible for the same person to be “obedient from the heart” (6:17) and “[serving] the law of sin” (7:25) at the same time, it is also impossible for the same person to be a slave of sin and a slave of righteousness at the same time. It is true that Paul exhorts those who have been freed from sin to not allow sin to reign over them in actual practice (6:12), but this does not imply that both objective conditions (i.e., slavery and non-slavery) can exist in the same person at the same time. In fact, the very basis for the exhortation to not allow sin to reign over them (6:12) is the objective fact that sin does not reign over them (6:6-7). Paul is saying, in essence, “Because you have been freed from sin, do not go on acting like a slave.”

6. The particular sin Paul chose as an illustration of sin’s use of the Law to bring about his death is a sin that Paul says elsewhere cannot characterize a true Christian. The sin Paul lists is covetousness (7:7-8).[2] He went so far as to say that “sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in [him] coveting [lit. “evil desire”] of every kind.” Since Paul proceeds almost immediately (vv. 14-25) to describe in greater detail the habitual failure of Fleshly Man in keeping the law, it would not seem unreasonable to think that he still had the law against covetousness (or evil desire) in mind. Even if this was not the particular sin Paul wanted the reader to focus on throughout chapter 7, one must at least admit that it should be allowed as one valid example of Fleshly Man’s struggle.

Fleshly Man, then, is someone who is “doing [or practicing] the sin of covetousness” (certainly among other sins, v. 15). He wants very much not to covet, but finds himself unable to cease from it (v. 18). In verse 19 he says, “The good that I want [presumably, contentment], I do not do, but I practice the very evil [covetousness or evil desire] that I do not want.” His practice of covetousness (among other sins), was so consistent that it cause him to become “a prisoner to the law of sin” (v. 23). In verse 25 he is “serving . . . the law of sin” (i.e., through covetousness among other sins). Given all of these self-descriptions of Fleshly Man, it is no stretch to say that the person depicted in Romans 7:14-25 is, by definition, a covetous person.
Now consider what Paul says elsewhere about covetousness and the covetous person:
In Romans 1:29 he lists it among the sins that characterize the godless Gentiles. Then he says to the self-righteous Jew in 2:2, “And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things.” The covetous person, then, may expect condemnation, not glorification.

In Romans 13:8-9, Paul says that the one who truly loves his neighbor is the one who has fulfilled the Law. He then lists four of the Ten Commandments, including “You shall not covet,” and says they are all summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Paul concludes this thought in verse 10 by saying, “Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.” The point here is that if a person can be described as one who loves his neighbor (as is characteristically true of all Christians), then he or she cannot be simultaneously described as covetous. One description rules out the other.

In 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 Paul writes, “But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves” (emphasis added). The point here is that the covetous person may be a “so-called” Christian, but we have no right to see him or her as a true Christian.

In 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Paul writes, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God” (emphasis added). He then continues by saying, “Such were [note the past tense] some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.” Christians may have been covetous as a matter of practice in their unregenerate past, but it cannot characterize their present reality.

In Colossians 3 Paul describes a number of sins, including greed (using a word elsewhere translated “covetousness”) as that which amounts to idolatry. He went on to say that “it is because of these things that the wrath of God will come upon the sons of disobedience” (v. 6). As in Romans 2:2, the covetous person should be expecting wrath, not salvation.

Certainly a true Christian can stumble into covetousness (or “evil desire”). A true believer might even be temporarily overtaken in this trespass (as in Gal. 6:1). But the descriptions of Fleshly Man in Romans 7 are not those of a person who has stumbled or who has been temporarily overcome. They describe a person who is practicing the very evil that he does not want to do. In addition to these clear indicators that Christians are not characteristically covetous people, consider the way Paul described himself elsewhere with respect to the sin of covetousness or greed:

In 2 Corinthians 6:3 Paul describes himself and Timothy as “giving no cause for offense in anything, so that the ministry will not be discredited.” He goes on to list the various hardships they have experienced, including this statement: “. . . as poor yet making many rich, as having nothing yet possessing all things.” Certainly this does not describe a pair of covetous men.

In Philippians 4:11-12 Paul says, “I have learned to be content in whatever circumstances I am. I know how to get along with humble means, and I also know how to live in prosperity; in any and every circumstance I have learned the secret of being filled and going hungry, both of having abundance and suffering need.” Again, this is not a self-description of a man who has been overtaken by covetousness.

In 1 Timothy 6:6-7 he writes, “But godliness actually is a means of great gain when accompanied by contentment. For we brought nothing into this world, so we cannot take anything out of it either.”

Paul felt comfortable saying to the Corinthians, “Give no offense either to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God; just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit but the profit of the many, so that they may be saved. Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.” Once again, Paul’s self-description does not allow for covetousness as a pattern of behavior.

These are not statements made by a man who saw himself as being “sold [under] sin,” especially not if particular reference is being made in Romans 7:14ff to the sin of covetousness (or evil desire). In fact, if Paul were honestly confessing his own habitual practice of greed, covetousness, or evil desire in Romans 7, we would have to label him as one of the greatest hypocrites in history for saying all of these other things about his contentment. Even more striking is the way Paul defended himself in 1 Corinthians 4:3-4: “But to me it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you, or by any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself. For I am conscious of nothing against myself . . .” Certainly Paul never thought of himself as sinless, but it seems impossible to say that the same man who said of himself, “the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want,” could also say with integrity, “I am conscious of nothing against myself.” His point was to say that no one could make a legitimate accusation of misconduct against him. In the very next chapter, in fact, Paul instructs the Corinthians to remove a person from their church if he is found to be covetous (1 Cor. 5:11). Again it is demonstrated that Fleshly Man, a person who is habitually failing in serious ways, possibly even through a pattern of covetousness, cannot be Paul the Christian.

7. Verse 18 speaks of an inability to do good that cannot describe the true Christian. In describing his struggle to do what is good (which we have already seen is to keep the Law), Fleshly Man says that “the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not” (v.18b). What he describes here is the discovery that no matter how hard he tries, he finds himself unable to do what God requires. The ESV translates it this way: “For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out” (emphasis added). The NASB translation captures this inability as well, as long as one does not read any partial ability into the text. As Fleshly Man says, the willing is present in him (referring to his good intentions to keep the Law), but the doing of the good is not in him—at all. He is not merely saying that the doing of the good is tough to muster up. It is not present.

Compare this with Paul’s contrast in Romans 8 between those who are “in the flesh” and those who are “in the Spirit.” Paul says of the person who is “in the flesh,” “For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God” (8:7-8, emphasis added). This clearly describes the inability to keep the Law (just as experienced by Fleshly Man in 7:14-25). From what immediately follows, however, we learn that Romans 8:7-8 does not describe the Christian. In verse 9 Paul says to believers, “However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you.” What this tells us is that the inability to please God that characterizes the person who is “in the flesh” (vv. 7-8) does not characterize the person who is indwelt by God’s Spirit.

Also compare Fleshly Man’s discovery of his own inability with Paul’s command in Romans 6:12. “Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts.” This command, among many similar commands given to Christians, is based on the objective reality that they have been set free from sin. If they had not been set free by the death of Christ, Paul could have never given these commands (at least not with any hope of them being obeyed). But since Christians have been set free from sin, Paul can command them to live like people who have been set free, through the Holy Spirit who dwells in them. This command will never be perfectly obeyed in this life, but instances and episodes of sin in the life of a true Christian never result from the inability to do what is right. As Paul writes elsewhere, “No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it” (1 Cor. 10:13).

8. Romans 7:18, which is commonly thought to prove the presence of the Holy Spirit in the person being described, actually proves the opposite. In verse 18 Paul writes, “For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh” (18a, emphasis added). The clarification at the end of that phrase (“that is, in my flesh”) is commonly taken as proof that Paul is describing the dual nature of the Christian—still fleshly (or carnal), but also indwelt by the Holy Spirit. As the reasoning goes, Paul wanted to clarify that though he knew nothing good could be found in his flesh, something very good (i.e., the Holy Spirit) was living in him.

There are two problems with this approach, both of which, I believe, are insurmountable:

First, it is critical to note how Fleshly Man knows nothing good dwells in him, as he states in 18a. He knows this (as he says in 18b) because of his inability to do the good. In other words, the fact that he cannot actually do the good he wills leads him to conclude that nothing good dwells in him. If the Holy Spirit were indeed dwelling in Fleshly Man, then he would be committing a serious error to conclude that he was unable to do what is right (as discussed above in number 7). This error would be particularly glaring if Fleshly Man were Paul the Christian, a man who was well aware of the power of the Spirit to free Christians from the law of sin and death (8:2), to cause them to walk according to the Spirit (8:4, 14), and to enable them to put to death the deeds of the body (8:13).

Second, in verse 14 Paul contrasted Fleshly Man with the Law, which is spiritual. As we discussed earlier (see number 4 above), this contrast only works grammatically if Fleshly Man is not spiritual. If Paul’s intent in verse 18 were to say that Fleshly Man is a Christian who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, the contrast between the Law and Fleshly Man in verse 14 would be meaningless. It would be as if he were saying, “The Law is spiritual, and so am I (even though I do not act like it because of the influence of my flesh).” Instead he says, “For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold [under] sin.” The word “but” in the sentence reveals a complete contrast to the word “spiritual,” and both parts of the sentence depict objective reality, not feelings, emotions, or behavior. The Law is “spiritual,” and Fleshly Man is “of flesh” (the opposite of spiritual).

So what did Paul mean then by adding, “that is, in my flesh,” in verse 18? It is likely that in this context he intended “my flesh” as a synonym for “the members of my body” and “my members” (as in verse 23). He was simply contrasting his good intentions (i.e., the law of his mind, as in v. 23) with the influence of sin he was learning to recognize in the members of his body (i.e., the law of sin). His insertion in verse 18 (“that is, in my flesh”) seems to be for the purpose of clarifying that something good was present in his mind—his intention to keep the Law. God Himself praised the Old Testament Israelites for their good intentions to keep the Law (Deut. 5:27-28), so it should not seem strange for this intention to be described as something good in Romans 7:18. Fleshly Man was simply coming to understand that his good intentions in his mind were being overruled by the sin which dwelt in the members of his body.

9. Fleshly Man discovers the fact that evil dwells in him (v. 21), whereas Christians already know this. Part of becoming a Christian is the discovery that sin has rendered you guilty before a holy God, and that your nature is depraved and in need of renewal. Until one realizes this about himself, he would find no legitimate meaning in Jesus’ words, “Unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of heaven” (John 3:3). Christians are people who have already come through the experience, however lengthy or brief, of conviction of sin and the recognition of their need to be saved. As long as a person is unaware of this—as long as he knows nothing of his depraved, condemned condition or his need for God’s mercy and grace—he should not be considered a Christian.

Fleshly Man admits from the outset of this passage (v. 15) that he does not understand why he keeps doing the things he hates, and not doing the things he would like to do. When Christians sin, especially those who are biblically informed (as Paul certainly was), they are intensely aware of the reasons for it. The next few verses (16-20) describe Fleshly Man’s process of being awakened to the reality of sin dwelling in him and his inability to do good. Then, in verse 23, he says, “I find then the principle . . .” This is his moment of discovery, and what he says he has discovered is “the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.” Verses 22-23 go on to elaborate on his discovery, and verse 24 then records his exclamation of despair: “Wretched man that I am!” Prior to this discovery, Fleshly Man did not recognize his own wretchedness or the fact that evil resided in his members, a condition all true Christians become aware of prior to conversion.

Without the self-awareness Fleshly Man gains in this passage, what would prompt a person to come to Christ or be thankful for God’s amazing grace? The sequence in the passage of 1) Fleshly Man’s ignorance of these basic Christian realities, followed by 2) his own personal discovery of them, followed by 3) his despairing cry for deliverance, necessitates that he be understood as an unbeliever experiencing enlightenment and conviction, not as a Christian struggling with sin.

10. Christians cannot be “prisoner[s] of the law of sin” (7:23) and “free from the law of sin” (8:2) at the same time. My argument here is similar to number 5 above. In 7:23, Fleshly Man describes his battle with sin: “But I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members” (emphasis added). Paul does not say that the result of this war is that he feels like a prisoner of the law of sin. He says (again describing his actual objective status) that he has become a prisoner of the law of sin. When he goes on to describe the Christian’s condition in 8:2, he says that “the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.” When verse 23 is taken at face value, the person being described is a prisoner, while the person in 8:2 is not. Logic dictates, then, that these cannot be objective descriptions of the same person at the same time.

Additionally, the battle fought with sin is described in verse 23 as a losing cause. We know this because in battle, prisoners are taken by the army that wins. In this battle, the law of sin takes Fleshly Man prisoner, indicating that the law of sin is the victor. This is not strange if the other combatant in this war is Fleshly Man’s good intentions (i.e., “the law of [his] mind”). The unregenerate person certainly has good intentions, but despite his best intentions to do good, he or she simply cannot do good apart from the Spirit of God (Rom. 8:7-8). If Fleshly Man is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, however, then according to the plain wording of verse 23, the law of sin has defeated the Holy Spirit and has taken Fleshly Man prisoner. This is impossible for the Christian, because, once again appealing to Romans 6, Christians are not enslaved by sin.

11. Paul concludes the passage (v. 25) by describing Fleshly Man’s ongoing condition as one of trying to “serve the law of God” (7:6), but actually “[serving] the law of sin” (7:25), neither of which are compatible with his other descriptions of the Christian life. The second half of verse 25 is often said to be a summary description of the Christian life: trying to please God (i.e., serving the law of God with the mind), but habitually failing (i.e., serving the law of sin). One of the main defenses of this interpretation is the position of the sentence in the passage; it comes after Paul’s exclamation, “Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord” (25a). Since this person obviously knows Jesus (or so the reasoning goes), the remainder of the verse must be his self-description of the Christian experience. This interpretation is unsatisfying for two reasons:

First, Paul’s consistent description of the Christian life in chapter 8 is that of walking in the Spirit (8:4), living by the Spirit (8:13), and being led by the Spirit (8:14). Nothing is ever said to the Romans about Christians “serving the law of God” (which most interpreters agree is a reference to the Law of Moses). In fact, Paul went out of his way to say that Christians “are not under law” (6:14), that they have been “made to die to the Law” (7:4), that they have been “released from the Law” (7:6a), and that they serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter” (7:6b). Given these statements, the last of which (7:6b) expressly denies that the Christian’s objective is to serve the Law of Moses, it should seem strange to hear Paul say that the ordinary Christian experience is one of “serving the law of God” (7:25). The self-description in 25b sounds much more like a Jew or Gentile God-fearer who is trying to please God through law keeping.

Secondly, to “serve . . . the law of sin” is to be a slave of sin. Without belaboring the point again, Christians may sin, but they do not serve the law of sin because they are no longer slaves of sin. Paul told us earlier that the new objective status of all true Christians is that of being “slaves of righteousness” (6:18). That means they serve righteousness instead of serving their former master, “the law of sin.”

12. Paul assures us in Romans 8:13 that people who are living like Fleshly Man are still condemned. Interpreters who hold to the “ordinary Christian experience” view of Romans 7:14-25 usually see verse 24 as a Christian’s expression of longing for glorification. When Fleshly Man says, “Who will deliver me from the body of this death?” it is assumed that he already knows the answer (as given in v. 25a), and that he is looking forward to the day when he will enjoy “the redemption of [the] body” (as in Romans 8:23). As the argument goes, Fleshly Man is fully expecting to be received into glory when Christ returns, despite the habitual sin he describes in verses 14-23—sin which he admits is due to the influence of his sinful flesh(7:14, 18, 23, 25b).

The problem with this interpretation of verse 24 is that Paul warns people who are living according to the flesh (like Fleshly Man), saying, “if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.” Nearly everyone agrees that “die” and “live” in this verse are references to eternal death in hell, or eternal life in heaven. Most scholars also agree that when Paul says to such people, “you must die,” he is speaking of their certain expectation of condemnation at the final judgment. In other words, he is saying that those who are living according to the flesh have only one thing to look forward to: eternal death. Therefore it is inconsistent to admit (as it seems everyone would) that Fleshly Man is “living according to the flesh,” and yet claim (as many do) that he is rightly expecting full and final deliverance.

Responses to Arguments for the “Ordinary Christian Experience” View

The following are my responses to the eight arguments I listed earlier for the “ordinary Christian experience” view. Some of these have been at least partially addressed in the above ten points, so I will try to avoid redundancy.

  1. Argument: In verses 7-13, Paul was speaking in the past tense, obviously describing his own past experience of being confronted by the demands of the Law. The sudden shift from past to present tense in verse 14 is most naturally taken as an indication that Paul is now describing his present experience as a Christian.
Response: While Paul’s use of the present tense does present a challenge, it should not be seen as a conclusive factor. The use of the present tense in describing a past event is a common literary device even today. Think of the person who tells a story like this: “So here I am, driving down this pitch-black country road with the wind howling and tornado warnings on the radio. Now a tree is falling in front of me and golf ball-sized hail is pounding on the roof of my car. I am getting really, really scared and I don’t know what to do . . . .” Despite the man’s use of present-tense language, everyone listening to (or reading) his account would automatically understand that he was not describing his present situation. In other words, it is not solely the grammatical tense employed in relating an event which is the final determiner of meaning. The factual content of the account, especially when examined in relation to other known facts about the person who is telling or writing it, is far more important.

  1. Argument: The struggle between the mind, or inner man, and the flesh, or members of the body (vv. 22-23), is not present in unbelievers. They want to do evil, not good (Rom. 1:18-32; John 3:19-20). Only believers have the genuine desire to do good, and therefore only they experience this struggle. Even though the Spirit is not mentioned in this passage, the fact that this person is experiencing a struggle between good and evil proves that the Holy Spirit is in him.
Response: This argument is understandable because of certain absolute biblical statements about the evil desires of unconverted people. Yet, it does not represent the full scope of biblical instruction, nor does it conform to common experience. Would you describe your former experience as an unconverted person by saying that there was never any struggle in your conscience between what you knew was right and in some sense wanted to do, and the sins you actually committed as a matter of practice? Most Christians would admit that there was a struggle, perhaps even an intense one at times. Paul, in fact, mentions this type of struggle taking place in the mind of the unconverted Gentile when he speaks of the conscience in Romans 2:15. He refers to “their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them” (Rom. 2:15), indicating that something in their minds was at times telling them they were doing good, and at other times, evil. The Bible does refer to unconverted people loving darkness rather than light (John 3:19), not seeking after God (Rom. 3:11), not doing any good (Rom. 3:12), and being hostile toward God (Rom. 8:7), but we must understand that these are descriptions of the unregenerate mind from God’s perspective. These are not the way an unregenerate person would describe himself.

  1. Argument: The apparent defeat and slavery to sin depicted in Romans 7:14-25 is consistent with the “already-but-not-yet” theme in Paul’s theology. Objectively, we are not enslaved to sin, as Paul repeatedly affirms in Romans 6 (vv. 6, 7, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22), but we are nevertheless told not to allow sin to reign as our master (Rom. 6:12). In one place Paul can say that the “old self” has been laid aside with its evil practices and the “new self” has been put on (Col. 3:9-10), while in another place he can instruct Christians to “lay aside the old self” and “put on the new self” (Eph. 4:22-24). In Romans 7:14-25, Paul was describing the “not yet” aspect of his theology, while in Romans 6 and 8, he was describing the “already” aspect of his theology.
Response: Those who argue that the difference between Romans 6 and 7 fits with the “already but not yet” theology Paul reveals elsewhere (i.e., in Ephesians 4 and Colossians 3 as mentioned earlier) should first of all remember that Romans 6 and 7 are both parts of the same letter, not two separate letters addressed to two separate audiences. Where Paul says to the Colossians that the old self has been laid aside (the “already” aspect of Paul’s theology of sanctification), it is the Ephesians he appears to exhort by saying that the old self needs to be laid aside (the “not yet” aspect of Paul’s theology of sanctification). Even more important is the fact that there may be no difference at all between Ephesians and Colossians in this respect. When Ephesians 4:22-24 is read in light of 4:20-21, what Paul appears to be saying is that laying aside the old self is the way Christ is properly learned. In other words, when a person “learns Christ” accurately and genuinely (i.e., when a person becomes a Christian), he or she does so in this manner: “In reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self . . . be renewed in the spirit of your mind . . . and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth” (Eph. 4:22-23). In essence, then, according to this interpretation, the passage is not an exhortation to lay aside the old self, but rather a description of the repentance that always accompanies genuine saving faith.

Even if this interpretation of Ephesians 4 is not correct and Paul was instructing the Ephesian Christians to “lay aside the old self,” it is important to note that the “old self” in Ephesians and Colossians, and “sin” in Romans 6-8, are not the same. Laying aside the old self should not be equated with being freed from sin. Laying aside the old self is the Christian’s response to being freed from sin. We know this, first of all, because laying aside the old self is always described in the active sense (i.e., you have done this or need to do this), whereas being freed from sin is always described in the passive sense (i.e., this has happened to you).When one comes to understand Paul’s theology as a whole, it becomes clear that while no Christian has fully or perfectly laid aside the old self (i.e., put away their former manner of living) or put on the new self (i.e., perfected their new manner of living), every Christian has been fully and completely set free from sin, as Paul makes clear in Romans 6. There is nothing subjective or progressive about attaining the condition of being freed from sin. It happens to the Christian, through the work of Christ and the indwelling Spirit, the moment a person is converted.

  1. Argument: Unbelievers do not “joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man” (v. 22). They are “haters of God” (Rom. 1:30) and “hostile toward God” (8:7; Col. 1:21).
Response: Again, one must realize that the passages mentioned as proof of this point are theological descriptions of the unregenerate mind from God’s perspective, not self-descriptions given by unregenerate people themselves. The fact is, every sincere, even though unconverted, Jew would have described himself as one who loved the Law of Moses. This self-description would also not be consciously hypocritical—the person would sincerely believe he was telling the truth about himself. Many unbelieving Jews in Paul’s day truly felt as though they loved, respected, even cherished the Law. They were not repulsed when reading it and trying to obey it, but rather they saw it as the key to eternal life (as Jesus said of them in John 5:39). God Himself commended the Jews for their stated intent to keep the Law (Deut. 5:27-28), even though He went on to lament the fact that they would certainly not do as they intended (Deut. 6:29). Paul described the Jews as having “a zeal for God” (Rom. 10:2), and the verses that follow this statement make it plain that their zeal was an attempt to achieve righteousness through law-keeping rather than through Christ. Therefore it would not be at all inconsistent to hear a sincere though unconverted Jew say, “I joyfully concur with the Law of God in the inner man.” The point of this statement in Romans 7:22, and of the passage as a whole, is to say, “In my mind, I sincerely approve of God’s Law and fully intend to obey it, though I find myself doing the exact opposite.”

  1. Argument: The struggle depicted in Romans 7:14-25 is consistent with the war between the flesh and the Spirit described in Galatians 5:16-17. Because the struggle in Galatians involves the Spirit of God, it clearly refers to a struggle within the Christian. Therefore, because both places describe the potential for sinful failure, both must refer to the same struggle within the Christian.
Response: First of all, the fact that Paul seems to describe a similar situation in Galatians does not prove that the same situation is being described in Romans 7. His purpose in writing to the Galatians was to refute a heresy, while the letter to the Romans is a comprehensive presentation of the gospel itself (although in presenting the gospel Paul does indeed refute heresy). The two letters from Paul were written for distinctly different purposes, so no automatic parallel in application should be assumed.

Furthermore, the overall context of Paul’s letter to the Galatians, in which the heresy of “righteousness through law-keeping” rather than “righteousness through Christ alone” is being refuted, lends weight to the conclusion reached by some that Galatians 5:16ff is not describing the war between the Spirit and the flesh in the mind of a Christian. According to this interpretation, Paul was describing the choice the Galatians were facing to either follow the Spirit by following the true gospel (i.e., finding their righteousness in Christ alone), or to follow the flesh by choosing the heresy (i.e., once again submitting to the regulations of the Law in seeking righteousness, thus proving themselves to be unbelievers, cf. 5:2-5). This view gains support from Paul’s earlier rebuke of the Galatians (3:3) in which he said, “Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?” (an obvious reference to futility of law-keeping for righteousness).

With this understood, Galatians 5:16-18, with Paul’s repeated contrasts between the Spirit and the flesh, needs to be reexamined before one assumes that it describes a Christian’s internal struggle with sin. This is especially important since in 5:18 Paul contrasts being led by the Spirit as incompatible with being under the Law. He seems to equate being under the Law with being in the flesh (or not under grace) as Paul said in Romans 6:14-15 and 7:4-6, and being delivered from the Law with having crucified the flesh (compare Galatians 5:24 with Romans 6:6). If this interpretation of Galatians 5:6-18 is correct, then Romans 7 and Galatians 5 have very much in common, but not in the way that is typically perceived. Both would be analyses of the differences between law-keeping for righteousness (which inevitably fails because it characterizes those who remain in the flesh), and life in the Spirit (which inevitably succeeds in producing practical righteousness because if characterizes those who are indwelt by the Spirit). Much more study is needed regarding this interpretation of Galatians 5:16-18, but it will suffice for now to say that Galatians 5:16-18 falls far short of proving “the ordinary Christian experience” view of Romans 7:14-25.

  1. Argument: The person in verses 14-25 knows Jesus as his Savior (v. 25a).
Response: The statement in verse 25 (“Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord”) proves only one thing: The person writing the letter knew Jesus as his Savior at the time the letter was written. This exclamation could have easily been intended by Paul the Christian as a joyfulparenthesis in the middle of recounting his pre-conversion despair. This possibility seems even more likely when one notes that in uttering this exclamation, Paul switches suddenly from the singular (“I” and “me”) to the plural—“Jesus Christ our Lord” (emphasis added). He may have made this sudden switch to the plural to indicate that he was reminding Christians that Jesus is the answer to the dilemma Fleshly Man was experiencing prior to being converted. This statement, in other words, was Paul’s Christian answer to the unconverted person’s despair at having discovered that the Law was a dead end in the pursuit of true righteousness.

  1. Argument: After proclaiming that Christ is the one who will deliver him from “the body of this death” (v. 24), Paul returns to further describe the ongoing conflict. This proves that even after Christ has delivered a person from sin and death (7:25a), the pattern of sinful failure described in verses 14-23 continues (7:25b). On this same thought, the forward-looking question, “Who will set me free from the body of this death” (7:24, emphasis added) should be understood as referring to the final redemption of the body, which is yet in the future for believers. Christians remain in “the body of this death” until Christ’s return. This is affirmed by Romans 8:11 and 23.
Response: First of all, if the “parentheses” interpretation in my previous response is valid, then there is no need to see Paul as “returning” to anything in 25b. He simply continues where he left off before briefly inserting the Christian answer to the unconverted person’s problem. Secondly, as addressed in number 11, neither of the self-descriptions given in 25b (serving the Law of God and serving the law of sin) are consistent with Paul’s description of the Christian life elsewhere. The parallel between Romans 7:24-25 and 8:10-13 is extremely unlikely in my opinion, since Romans 8:1-14 is all about the way true Christians can and do behave righteously because of the Spirit who dwells in them, while Romans 7:14-25 is all about a person who cannot behave righteously despite his most diligent effort and best intentions. As for Romans 7:24 being a reference to the final redemption of the body, Paul introduces the thought of final redemption in 8:23 as something new, not as something that was previously discussed.[3] This is apparent in verse 23 when he writes, “And not only this, but we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.” His point was to say that Christians, whose righteous behavior is “the first fruits of the Spirit” (as Paul had been discussing since the beginning of chapter 8), have even more to look forward to in the future: “our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.” Here, for the first time in chapter 8, Paul makes mention of the resurrection of the body when Christ returns.

  1. Argument: The Romans 7:14-25 experience is universally familiar to believers, so much so that it is proven to be “ordinary” by that factor. All Christians struggle with sin, and all are anticipating final deliverance from “the body of this death.” This is so consistently affirmed elsewhere in the New Testament (even as close as Romans 8:11 and 23) that no one should find it unusual for Paul to describe it here.
Response: It is more accurate to say that Romans 7:14-25 contains elements that are similar to the ordinary Christian experience. All true Christians do struggle with sin, similar in some ways to Fleshly Man’s description of his own struggle. All true Christians at times lament their proneness toward sinning and may feel a sense of despair, similar in some ways to Fleshly Man’s exclamation of despair in verse 24. But no true Christian may find similarity between his own objective reality of “having been freed from sin” (Rom. 6:6, 7, 14, 17. 18, 20, 22; 8:2), and Fleshly Man’s objective reality of being “of flesh, sold into bondage to sin” (Rom. 7:14), or of being “a prisoner of the law of sin” (Rom. 7:23).
Conclusion
My intent in writing and posting this article was simply to make the fruit of my own study available to others. I hope it will promote diligent study and edifying discussion among believers, even if some arrive at (or remain convinced of) a different view. I earnestly hope that everyone who reads what I have written will apply their own understanding of Romans 7 in a responsible manner, never using the “ordinary Christian experience” view as a way to comfort habitual sinners who should be warned, and never using the “pre-conversion” view in a way that will drive true believers to despair through a false doctrine of perfectionism.
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[1] Historically, a few interpreters have taken Romans 7:14-25 to be a description of the experience of an immature believer rather than the ordinary Christian experience. This interpretation may come closer to explaining the person’s growing understanding of his own condition (see number 9 below), and perhaps the frequency of his sinful failure, but it comes no closer to dealing with the fact that Fleshly Man describes his own objective reality. He is not spiritual, he is sold under sin (see number 5 below), he is a prisoner of the law of sin (see number 10 below) than does the “ordinary Christian experience” view. These objective realities cannot be true of an immature believer any more than a mature believer.

[2] Lit, “evil desire,” as compared to another Greek word commonly translated “covetousness” in the NT. Since Paul quotes from the Ten Commandments in 7:7, we should not make any great difference between covetousness and evil desire based solely on his choice of words.

[3] In my opinion, the final redemption of the body was not discussed in Romans 8:11. This verse, I believe, promises the “life” of practical righteousness that is experienced while in our mortal bodies (that is, our unredeemed bodies, bodies that are destined to die physically but are still alive) “through His Spirit who dwells in you.” I believe Paul was referring to the “logical future,” rather than the “chronological future” when he said, “He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies” (emphasis added). He was not indicating, in other words, that Christians could expect this “life” at some point in the future (referring to glorification), but that this “life” (referring to practical righteousness) inevitably follows, or accompanies, the indwelling of the Spirit. Paul used this same “logical future” device in 4:23-24 when he said, speaking of justification, “Now not for his [Abraham’s] sake only was it written that it was credited to him, but for our sake also [addressing current believers], to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead” (emphasis added). Paul was not telling believers that they could expect to be justified at some point in the future. He was saying, “Just as Abraham was justified by faith alone, so also will we be justified by faith alone.” The one thing (justification for all believers) logically follows, or accompanies, the other (justification for Abraham the believer). So in 8:11, the “life” of righteousness logically follows the presence of the Spirit, with no necessity to see this as a reference to a future event for believers. As for the connection with the resurrection of Jesus, Paul’s meaning in 8:11 is roughly parallel with 6:4-7, where union with the resurrection of Jesus results in the practice of “walking in newness of life” (v. 4-5), the crucifixion of the old self (v.6) and freedom from sin (v. 7).